Sunday, June 30, 2019

Ben Shapiro on Jesus Christ



BS: From a Jewish point of view, where we don't believe in the divinity of Christ. There you can make an argument, that the Gospels which were written significantly-
JR: He was just a prophet.

BS: No, no, no. We don't even think he was a prophet.

JR: What do you think he was? What do you guys think he was?

BS: Well, I, I, I, what do I think he was historically? I think he was a Jew who tried to lead a revolt against the Romans and got killed for his trouble. Just like a lot of other Jews at that time who tried to lead revolts against the Romans and got killed for their trouble.

JR: So he became legend, and story, and it became a bigger and bigger deal as time went on.

BS: Yeah, he had a group of followers and that gradually grew.

JR: Do you think he was resurrected?

BS: No. That's not a Jewish belief.

JR: Okay. I just wanted to check.

BS: We're not into miracle stories, no. That's not.

JR: You don't have any miracles?

BS: Not by Jesus. There was in the Old Testament. Yeah, you've got Moses splitting the sea and all that.

JR: What do you think happened there?

BS: What do I think happened there? I'll go with my Maimonidean explanation. There was, it says in the Bible, there was a strong east wind. So there was a naturalistic explanation for a physical phenomenon.

JR: That makes sense.

BS: That's what Maimonides is constantly trying to do.


Big Bear sums up Shapiro and the so-called conservatives who are foolish enough to support him against the interests of their nation, their families, and their faith in a succinct manner: If you're a Christian and you just heard that and you ever support him again, you're a liar, you're a satanist, and you're evil.

The inescapable historical fact is that Muslims have FAR more in common with Christians than Jews do. It is considerably more accurate to talk about shared Islamo-Christian values than Judeo-Christian values. Notice that Shapiro's Maimonidean answer about Jesus Christ is very, very different than even the non-believers of Jesus's day, as well as being very different from whom we believe Jesus Christ to be.

When Jesus came to the region of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, “Who do people say the Son of Man is?” They replied, “Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others, Jeremiah or one of the prophets.” “But what about you?” he asked. “Who do you say I am?” Simon Peter answered, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.” Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven.
- Matthew 16:13-17


From: http://voxday.blogspot.com/2019/06/ben-shapiro-on-jesus-christ.htm

3 comments:

TSE said...

Read that again - Christian Soldier:

BS: Well, I, I, I, what do I think he was historically? I think he was a Jew who tried to lead a revolt against the Romans and got killed for his trouble. Just like a lot of other Jews at that time who tried to lead revolts against the Romans and got killed for their trouble.

JR: So he became legend, and story, and it became a bigger and bigger deal as time went on.

BS: Yeah, he had a group of followers and that gradually grew.

JR: Do you think he was resurrected?

BS: No. That's not a Jewish belief.

TSE said...

See The Flavian Deception.

As for me - I'm an Odinist.

TSE said...

A Jew tells the Truth for all the deceived Judeo-Christians to hear.

Now what? Deceived Judeo - Christian.